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Post by Arnav...!!! on Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:40 pm

this doubt may be simple for many ppl here.............so can u pl help me out.......... fool

does the electron literally rotate in the energy shells..........around the nucleus ?????..........wat happened of the Maxwells laws if it does rotate.........???? drunk2

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Re: electron spin..........

Post by Infinity squared on Sun Dec 28, 2008 5:18 pm

energy states r fixed

it does rotate but we can't specify where ...so we cant say abt enegy
1 atom may b losing energy while the other gaining it so net is conserved
:maybe: fool

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Post by Arnav...!!! on Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:35 am

if we consider only 1 atom.........the energy it will loose (will b probably taken by another atom........)but due to the energy loss wont electron collapse in the nucleus...........

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Post by rt_08 on Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:00 am

i think in this case we consider stationary energy states...........
where the electron wont lose or gain energy if it is orbiting in a shell

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Post by rt_08 on Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:01 am

i maybe wrong............

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Post by SKAND on Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:45 pm

well i think it was where a good theory collapsed(i don't remember the name)

then there was some hypothesis and thats all

i'll try to search it

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Post by Arnav...!!! on Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:33 pm

so wat abt maxwells laws???????????

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Post by Infinity squared on Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:09 am

not spot on!!!

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Post by rt_08 on Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:20 am

i think maxwell laws produce the theory of stationary energy states
but again it is just a hypothesis

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Post by Arnav...!!! on Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:35 pm

wat do u mean by..........."not spot on"..........????

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Post by Infinity squared on Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:49 pm

check out my first post again...
its just a hypothesis...
i m talking of a single atom-1 elec loses energy to move towards nucleus while other gains it..elec conf r just probability func based on inf uncertainty...

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Post by Infinity squared on Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:54 pm

sorry..here's the rite explanation..

in bohr's stationary states,speed of electron is fixed,so constant acceleration and no radiations Smile

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Post by Arnav...!!! on Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:16 am

constant acc???????

how can it be????????

if acc were to b constt wouldnt it go out of reach of atom/nucleus..........????????????

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Re: electron spin..........

Post by sakura kinomoto on Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:27 pm

Maxwell's equations have no relation to the movement of the electron. They describe the distribution of electromagnetic waves but not the movement of a particle such as an electron. In Maxwell's theory, the charge - electron is considered local, as though the particle is at rest. This means that if te particle does not move rectilinearly, but rotates around the diameter (has the form of a sphere).

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Post by Infinity squared on Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:38 pm

ah well NCERT states the elec are in stationary wave form and so no transfer of energy...

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